e-lin 1 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 he should have been sent to his trailer to cool down like a little child cause thats what he acted like- a bratty little kid throwing a temper tantrum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubaGirl 7 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 someone's remixed his rant into a pretty hysterical techno song...I laughed pretty hard: http://community.livejournal.com/ontd/139101.html This was the funniest thing I've heard in a while!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TubaGirl 7 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Why AICN Doesn't Post Links To Stories Like This Christian Bale thing that's everywhere! Hey folks, Harry here... I'm getting slammed with assloads of people angry at me for not posting the Bale explosion from the set of McG's TERMINATOR: SALVATION. Well, first off - there's a real simple reason. It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news. It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale. Now, I know what a lot of you are thinking... There's no excuse for a temper tantrum like that to ever occur and if you are going to act that way, you deserve to be embarrassed by your own actions. Except, you want to hear the REALITY behind that clip? I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is. And this person isn't a publicist, nor are they invested in Bale's career. They're just someone that thinks it is absolute bullshit that this moment in Bale's life is being aired and that the real story should get out there. The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. He's a fairly young DP and likes to fiddle with his lights on set during action, which is a big "NO NO" on most productions unless worked out in advance with performers. But apparently Shane was a pretty unrepentant light tweaker. The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that shit down before the scene starts. Bale had indeed warned the DP on multiple occasions about messing with lights while the cameras were rolling, and Bale was in the midst of a painful scene with Bryce, what was described to me as being the emotional center of the film and his character for the film. Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance. You don't need me to give you a link, it's all over the internet, I just felt that you should know what really went down - and that this particular outburst did indeed modify the DP's behavior - and for future DPs. Fuck with the lights before and after your actors are acting. Not during. Folks - I've decided to shut down comments on this story. I just really really feel this sort of thing isn't "UP TO DEBATE". I stay out of the 'personal gossip' arena because frankly... can you imagine your personal shit aired for all to see. None of us are perfect, and certainly we have all sinned to some degree. Actors, Actresses, Celebrities and the people exploited on sites like TMZ. They're human beings that I personally feel are owed the same inalienable rights that the rest of us hold dear. Can you imagine cameras documenting your every attempted private moment. This moment was something that occurred in the heat of a moment on set between professionals. The audio is so clear on Christian, that it's obvious a mike was on him or a foot and a half above him. These are the sorts of moments that are private affairs. Yet somehow, because he's an actor. We feel it's permissable to air his dirty laundry. It isn't our business. It isn't anybody's fucking business. Will this affect TERMINATOR SALVATION? Will this give us insight into his character? Only because I found some details out, do we know it was in the midst of a scene between him and Bryce Howard. But that's accidental... and certainly hasn't been revealed by CNN or any other media, because they just run the clip with BEEPS. Is it funny? I suppose it may be. It allows regular people to laugh, point fingers and call someone other than themselves an ASSHOLE. But frankly, I find it disgusting. It's the exact thing that I made AICN to not be about. I wrote this, not to create an endless TALKBACK, but to express my opinion on the spreading of stories like this and making Christian look bad, when he isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrenchDoll 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 ^^ Thank you TubaGirl...that put everything into perspective, and really balanced out the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 That goes with everything I have heard about Bale & the way he behaves towards crew members. I am glad that someone is putting out another side to what happened, too bad the media will continue to show only one side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoyaheel 1,874 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Lainey says there's a director war--McG vs Bay, Transformers & Terminator coming out at same time, and that this was a volley by one side.....Since I cannot remember who directs which movie, I can't say who lobbed the grenade ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galaxygirl 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 Lainey says there's a director war--McG vs Bay, Transformers & Terminator coming out at same time, and that this was a volley by one side.....Since I cannot remember who directs which movie, I can't say who lobbed the grenade ;-) I think Bay is Transformers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meganmarie 3 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 That article defending Christian Bale doesn't change my mind one bit. I'm sure acting in an emotionally difficult scene for Terminator: Salvation must be terribly important, but IMO it doesn't rise to the level of importance that would justify going on a tirade like that. So the guy shouldn't have been tweaking the lights - so what? Don't most people put up with annoyances and incompetence all the time without ranting like a lunatic? I just don't agree that because someone is an actor they should somehow be above treating people professionally or with decency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyD 2 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) Good Point, Megan. I am on the fence with this....I got a chance to talk to him when he was around and he seemed nice and very self deprecating, when I was an ass to him(I said, Hey! Batman!)...he grinned and said it's cool if you only know me for that flick. Maybe because I was bigger than him...lol. But I kinda figure he was the type that if you also catch him on a bad day, he might chew your head off. Do I think he's a Diva? Naw...But I definitely can see where he could go off on your ass if you bug him enough...very tempermental. I guess I'm saying that I'm not horrified by his tirade...At least he didn't throw a phone(looking at you Russell Crowe). :4biggrin: Edited February 3, 2009 by BobbyD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bittermuch? 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 As someone who has a truly hellacious temper and has lost it inappropriately on occasion (although the occasions become fewer as I grow older and - one hopes - more mature), I can't hate on Bale for this too much, particularly in light of the AICN explanation. Was he in the right to handle it that way? Probably not. Was it professional behavior? Fuck no. Do I understand why it happened? More than I would like to admit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC 1 Report post Posted February 3, 2009 I think I read somewhere that it wasn't the first time this DP entered the set while they were filming and that he had been warned by Bale before to not adjust lights while he was filming a scene. Whoopi was talking about this today and defended Bale saying that if he'd warned him not to do it and he still did it, then going off on him would have been warranted. I suspect it had happened more than once before. Bale sounded like the dam had burst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GovMarley 90 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 I think what bothers me most is how long he went on about it. I have a terribly short fuse, and I can be pretty damn immature and pitch a rant, but the length is what got to me. It's one thing to explode and tell someone to knock that shit off, it's another to just keep tearing into him. That's what I can't get past about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hihomumio 168 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 I think what bothers me most is how long he went on about it. I have a terribly short fuse, and I can be pretty damn immature and pitch a rant, but the length is what got to me. It's one thing to explode and tell someone to knock that shit off, it's another to just keep tearing into him. That's what I can't get past about it. Same here Gov. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Time4me 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 Oh no. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior in a professional environment. (or anywhere, imo) No way. No how. I don't buy any of the garbage being shoveled in Bale's defense, either. He's throwing a profanity laced temper tantrum and it speaks volumes not only about him but also about the people who, witnessing the outburst, shifted into placate mode. So what if he was in an intense scene with Bryce?...Bale is certainly no one-take actor, so it's not like he's never re-shot before. He's going off on the DP with the kind of profane rant reserved for the overpriveleged or mentally unbalanced. What a tool. And an idiot...he is on-set, surrounded by recording devices...We live in a You Tube age and actors/media folks above all should know better than to let loose when Big Brother is around. Imagine what he is like behind closed doors. Maya Angelou was oh-so-right, "When people show you who they really are, believe them." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyD 2 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 I didn't think any of us were excusing his behavior...I just think a lot of us aren't...uhhh...shocked. I mean it's not like this guy ooozes the warm and fuzzies. :4biggrin: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ver 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 If this was a one-off I would cut CB a lot more slack BUT when combined with the "verbal" assault reported by his mother and sister last year(what, did they disturb his concentration too, were they moving lights as the apologists for CB have said) then it paints a really bad picture.....to be honest, he comes across as an egotistical a-hole. I don't think he's such an amazing actor that he's entitled to be arrogant and unpleasant to the "underlings" in his life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 If this was a one-off I would cut CB a lot more slack BUT when combined with the "verbal" assault reported by his mother and sister last year(what, did they disturb his concentration too, were they moving lights as the apologists for CB have said) then it paints a really bad picture.....to be honest, he comes across as an egotistical a-hole. I don't think he's such an amazing actor that he's entitled to be arrogant and unpleasant to the "underlings" in his life. Bale's mother and sister were shaking him down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purplehaze 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 He is a hot head. One day he'll say the wrong thing to the wrong person and TMZ will be there to capture him being knocked out. They got that Suge Knight guy when he got knocked out by some dude...it'll happen to Bale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpierce 9 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 I just don't think there is any excuse for this kind of behavior at all. He's the actor, not the director for one thing. He also should have taken it to higher authority then to rant and rave for ten minutes, this only shows how immature he really is. I bet he also thinks he knows better then everybody and could make the damn movie on his own. Just another actor throwing a tantrum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cathmonast 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 I agree with Al Pierce on that. I think that Bale's attitude is totally unprofesionnal and diva like. I'm just asking myself if he is not acting this way with his daughter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
princess 1,712 Report post Posted February 4, 2009 someone's remixed his rant into a pretty hysterical techno song...I laughed pretty hard: http://community.livejournal.com/ontd/139101.html Heard it on the radio this morning, too funny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mostlylurker 2 Report post Posted February 5, 2009 you k now i just listened to the whole thing. a 4 min sustained rant. and what's worse they just appease him. This guy is a total asshole. This is NOT just getting into a scene, not just losing it for a moment. This is serious personality problem, and also a hostile working environment. and he has the gall to explode about unprofessional behavior? I hope the DP sues his ass. He deserves it. I had liked bale before. Between the family rant and this? Just another asshole who can act. Get over it bale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mostlylurker 2 Report post Posted February 5, 2009 If this was a one-off I would cut CB a lot more slack BUT when combined with the "verbal" assault reported by his mother and sister last year(what, did they disturb his concentration too, were they moving lights as the apologists for CB have said) then it paints a really bad picture.....to be honest, he comes across as an egotistical a-hole. I don't think he's such an amazing actor that he's entitled to be arrogant and unpleasant to the "underlings" in his life. Bale's mother and sister were shaking him down. NO ONE is entitled to act that way. No actor is amazing enough. no doctor no director, no manager, no one. Im in academic medicine. Academic medicine is famous for a past history of bad behavior excused as due to stress, the unique personality of a talented mind, the hours, the culture etc. And no one (well few) accept this today. Being an asshole is nothing more than that. We now accept some of the greatest docs are the more gracious gentlemen (and ladies). they are confident and in control. Bullying only hurts patients when it makes juniors and afraid to be bonest and ask questions when need be. No one accepts that this behavior makes a better doctor. And Im sorry, Poor little christian bale is not doing anything more important or psychologically challenging than what i see hundreds of people do on a day to day basis. Bale is nothing more than a spoiled little boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GimmeSumSugar 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2009 He is a c**t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
princess 1,712 Report post Posted February 5, 2009 Looks like he's trying to do some spin control on E! News. You can check out the E! News video here Per the clip, Christian was yelling at the Director of Photography for the movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
