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Wow. Also shocked. I got breaking news alerts on my phone from three separate news agencies. I think it's time to watch the Angelina Jolie PR dance begin. This woman is a master of turning her crazy into America's angel of mercy.

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I really thought they'd stay together, even if only because they had an open relationship. I'm actually kinda bummed for them.

 

 

I'm sure I'll get over it soon. :monkey:

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I think it's time to watch the Angelina Jolie PR dance begin. This woman is a master of turning her crazy into America's angel of mercy.

 

Although Brangelina tried to stick it out, eventually the couple reached a breaking point. "She did try to make it work, but her kids come first and she couldn't let them see mommy and daddy like this,” the source told Us. "The fighting got worse and they disagreed a lot about parenting and a lot of things.”

 

A second source shared other points of contention between the two, who have been together since 2004 and married since 2014. “They also fight over their schedules and politics still,” the source said. “They have a lot of very heated political fights.”

 

:rolleyes:

 

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/brad-pitt-and-angelina-jolie-split-what-went-wrong-w440986?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=092016_12

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I'm surprised and I'm not. Initially I didn't think they would last this long but after they'd been together for so many years and kept having children I thought they would stay together at least until the kids were older, regardless of the state of their relationship. I did begin to wonder if there was trouble in paradise when they decided to get married a couple years ago. It seemed odd to get married after so many years. I wondered if they were trying to save the relationship.

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The spin has already begun. I've seen several news snippets mentioning Brad and Marion Cottilard. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-split-did-marion-cotillard-play-a-role-w441002

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Here's what Ted had to say on FB:

Ted Casablanca

Lots of folks asking my thoughts: Brangelina busted a long time ago. Can't help but think karma here: Gwyneth broke Brad's heart, Brad broke Jen's and Angelina broke everybody's. #whatcomesaround

#Brangelina #Divorce #selfportrait #photoaday #PalmSprings



I told him we miss him!!!! If you haven't friended him on FB, go do it and tell him how you feel!!! :)

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awwww. I love Ted... he's the one who got me hooked on celebrity gossip! And yes, I was definitely wondering what his take would be on the Brange split.

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So, this report was filed with family services the day before she filed for divorce. I could see this being the reason for the split. First, as a mom - mess with my kids, that trumps all... second, if they've been leading separate lives and were set to leave it that way rather than face the bad PR of a separation, bad PR for this could be a violation of their unwritten agreement.

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Authorities are investigating allegations that actor Brad Pitt was verbally abusive and got physical with one of the children he has with Angelina Jolie, according to multiple reports.

 

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The Los Angeles Police Department and Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services opened an investigation after getting a report of Pitt acting erratically and screaming at one of the couple's children on a private jet last Wednesday, according to TMZ.

 

The report was made a day before the separation date listed by Jolie in a filing made Monday for divorce. Jolie cited "irreconcilable differences" as the reason for the couple's split.

 

They have six children together. INLINE

 

According to PEOPLE, Pitt's alleged tirade focused on one of the children, although the magazine did not identify which child it was. Jolie and some of the other children saw the confrontation, PEOPLE reported.

 

Both PEOPLE and TMZ, citing unnamed sources, said Pitt may have been intoxicated at the time.

 

According to TMZ, "The plane landed at an airport around 8 p.m., and witnesses say Pitt continued his rant on the tarmac, and even tried leaving in one of the fuel trucks."

 

Jolie, 41, filed for divorce from Pitt, 52, Monday and requested sole physical custody of the couple's children. They were married in 2014.

 

"I am very saddened by this, but what matters most now is the well-being of our kids," Pitt said in a statement released on Monday to PEOPLE. "I kindly ask the press to give them the space they deserve during this challenging time."

 

In a statement made by her attorney, Jolie said the decision to divorce Pitt "was made for the health of the family."

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Re the story above - LAPD has denied any investigation.

 

Courtesy ONTD:

 

 


Chelsea Handler weighed in on Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's divorce during her show.

She said that she wouldn't get married until Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie got divorced.

Chelsea said that if Brad Pitt never got married, he could've been partying with George Clooney and Matt Damon at Lake Como instead of "being stuck in a house with 85 kids speaking 15 different languages."

She says that Brad Pitt was drinking and smoking too much weed because "he married a fucking lunatic."
I am not sure but that she may be on to something. :)
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There is no way the police would be involved with investigating child abuse claims. They would refer the case to DCFS unless there was a crime happening and there was imminent danger. Even in severe abuse cases the police almost never get involved and criminal charges are rarely filed.

 

It looks like this split may get ugly. I used to work for DCSF in L.A. and one of the worst kinds of cases you can get are the custody battle cases where allegations are made and it's unclear if they're legit or it's clear that they aren't. I had a case where the mother was coaching the child to make false allegations about the father and it was one of the saddest and most difficult cases I had. I'm not saying that's what's happening here but I caution people to keep an open mind when child abuse allegations are made when custody is an issue.

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Just want to remind everyone how Jolie is a MASTER of pr manipulation and she's got Wasser as her attorney. Not saying she is lying or not, just that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". This is the truth and I have no doubt that if she believes he was cheating (in his heart) on her, then she is gonna go nuclear on him. If true though.....she really should look in the mirror and consider what her involvement with him did to his marriage to Jennifer Aniston and how that affected Aniston. Oh, and please don't think I see him as blameless...NOT at all, he's half responsible for the entire mess, start to finish.

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Call me jaded, but I have to take any allegation of child abuse that first crops up during a divorce filing with a HUGE grain of salt. It could well be legit -- and I would never want to come across as being anti-child welfare while the allegations are sorted out-- but the timing is suspect to say the least.

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Now TMZ is reporting that it's not LAPD that's involved but the FBI. I have never heard of the FBI taking on a child abuse case. The only explanation I can think of is that the supposed abuse happened on a plane and involved multiple jurisdictions or federal jurisdictions. I suppose that's possible. This is obviously a unique situation since a vast majority of the clients in the child welfare system can't afford to fly on a private jet. Or the reports are bogus.

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Now TMZ is reporting that it's not LAPD that's involved but the FBI. I have never heard of the FBI taking on a child abuse case. The only explanation I can think of is that the supposed abuse happened on a plane and involved multiple jurisdictions or federal jurisdictions. I suppose that's possible. This is obviously a unique situation since a vast majority of the clients in the child welfare system can't afford to fly on a private jet. Or the reports are bogus.

 

 

FYI -- here is a web site that I googled. https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/violent-crime/cac

 

 

The FBI does not investigate child abuse cases per se. I think LAPD is a victim of Angelina's PR machine and they passed the buck as a way of getting TMZ and other news people off their back.

 

As an aside, Angelina should be very careful about making these kind of allegations. IF these kind of allegations are proven false, they very often end up with the judge awarding custody to the opposite parent. This kind of (if) unfounded allegation, coupled with a history of drug abuse could have Brad with a house full of kids.

 

I think each parent will end up having the court order tox screens to see who is using and what.

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This is from People. Assuming these really are "sources close to Brad" he is admitting to a fight and putting his hand on the kid, but not in a violent manner. This is really ramping up fast.

 

 

Brad Pitt's Side of the Story: He 'Did Not Hit' Maddox as Plane Fight with Angelina Jolie 'Got Out of Hand,' Says Source

 

by Michael MillerThursday September 22, 2016 06:10 PM EDT

After 12 years and six kids together, Angelina Jolie files for divorce from Brad Pitt just after their two-year wedding anniversary. Subscribe now for the real story behind the split, only in PEOPLE.

 

Brad Pitt did not strike his son Maddox during a heated mid-flight argument with Angelina Jolie last week, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

 

Pitt is accused of being "verbally abusive" and getting "physical" with one of his children on the family's private plane last Wednesday, a source previously told PEOPLE.

 

The L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services is investigating the 52-year-old after the alleged incident was reported to them anonymously. The case has also been referred to the FBI under special aircraft jurisdiction due to the incident being mid-flight.

 

"The FBI is continuing to gather facts and will evaluate whether an investigation at the federal level will be pursued," the FBI said in a statement.

 

Now the source with knowledge of the incident is speaking exclusively to PEOPLE about Pitt's side of the story.

 

Pitt "was drunk, and there was an argument between him and Angelina," says the source. "There was a parent-child argument which was not handled in the right way and escalated more than it should have."

 

The source says Pitt did not hurt his son. "He is emphatic that it did not reach the level of physical abuse, that no one was physically harmed. He did not hit his child in the face in any way. He did not do that; he is emphatic about that. He put his hands on him, yes, because the confrontation was spiraling out of control."

 

A source close to Pitt says any accusations beyond that are "a combination of exaggerations and lies. They have taken the overall smallest kernel of truth that a fight got out of hand and reached a regrettable peak, and that as a result DCFS is looking into it and they are manipulating it to best suit their attempts to gain custody."

 

For more on Jolie and Pitt's divorce, watch People Cover Story: Brad & Angelina on the new People/Entertainment Weekly Network (PEN). Go to people.com/PEN or download the free app on your Smart TV, mobile and Web devices.

 

Brad Pitt's Side of the Story: He 'Did Not Hit' Maddox as Plane Fight with Angelina Jolie 'Got Out of Hand,' Says Source| Breakups, Divorced, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Maddox Jolie-Pitt, Pax Thien Jolie-Pitt

In the petition for divorce Jolie filed on Monday, the actress requested sole physical custody of the couple's six children Maddox, 15, Pax, 12, Zahara, 11, Shiloh, 10, and twins Knox and Vivienne, 8.

 

As for the ongoing DCFS investigation, the source close to Pitt told PEOPLE, "He takes the matter very seriously and says he did not commit any abuse of his children. It's unfortunate that people involved are continuing to present him in the worst possible light."

 

FLASHBACK: Brad and Angelina at the 2012 Golden Globes

 

 

The actor has not seen his children in several days, another source close to the family says, noting that "Angelina and Brad have not been in contact at all" since she filed for divorce.

 

"I am very saddened by this, but what matters most now is the well being of our kids I kindly ask the press to give them the space they deserve during this challenging time," Pitt said in a statement to PEOPLE following the divorce filing.

 

In a separate statement, an attorney for Jolie said, "This decision was made for the health of the family. She will not be commenting at this time, and asks that the family be given their privacy during this difficult time."

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NAUGHTY GOSSIP 09/21
While millions of rumors circulate about why this A-LIST couple are getting divorces, sources tell NAUGHTY GOSSIP that the real reason is that she is dating a powerful politician! "She has been getting more and more interested in politics for years and finds Hollywood dull and boring. She is more focused on helping children around the world. Through her adventures she has met some very powerful politicians. One of them she has fell in love with. That is the real reason why she filed for divorce." THIS IS A SUPER HARD ONE TO GUESS! WINK!!!!!!!

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ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 09/21 **#13**
Over the past decade, by my count this A+ list mostly movie actress who is an Academy Award winner/nominee has attempted suicide four times. Those are the ones I know about. I’m sure there were times when she was out of the country or stopped before she needed a doctor so the number is probably much higher. Also higher is the number of times she has threatened to kill herself and her children. One of her suicide attempts happened while she was pregnant. Another time she took one of her children into a very dangerous situation and threatened to kill herself and the child. I remember the birthday suicide attempt. Any kind of celebration that is not about her can turn into threats or attempts. The thing is though, the one person who was always there and always able to talk her down is gone now. It makes me wonder whether the next time it happens, if it will be the end.

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NAUGHTY GOSSIP 09/22
Which A-LIST female star recently caught her A-LIST husband in bed with a much younger man. The two were naked and certainly were not sleepy. She has a reputation for a wild sexual past and has slept with many women before she got married. But she is having none of this and has decided to end the relationship. CLUE: IT MIGHT NOT BE AS OBVIOUS AS YOU THINK! BOOM!

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NAUGHTY GOSSIP 09/21

While millions of rumors circulate about why this A-LIST couple are getting divorces, sources tell NAUGHTY GOSSIP that the real reason is that she is dating a powerful politician! "She has been getting more and more interested in politics for years and finds Hollywood dull and boring. She is more focused on helping children around the world. Through her adventures she has met some very powerful politicians. One of them she has fell in love with. That is the real reason why she filed for divorce." THIS IS A SUPER HARD ONE TO GUESS! WINK!!!!!!!

 

 

Wonder if the politician they are talking about is William Hague? He's been working with her. Married, but that doesn't stop her so.....

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3805238/She-s-woman-agenda-Angelina-Jolie-looking-England-order-peer-House-Lords.html

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Not for nothing, but the BI is gender neutral and this is from the daily mail article linked above...

 

Pitt is said to have been furious over Jolie's appointment of Arminka Helic, 48, and Chloe Dalton, 37, two former political aides to British politician William Hague. A source told the Sun they were brought in to help with her campaign work and speech writing and urged Pitt to reduce the couple's support staff.

 

'Brad sees the women as a coven. He was furious at some of Arminka's decisions,' the source said.

 

The decisions are said to have included ditching Pitt's security team - some of whom had worked for the star for 20 years.

 

Lady Helic is seen as a key person on 'Team Angie' as the actress braces herself for the aftermath of her decision to divorce Pitt.

 

A source told Daily Mail's Alison Boshoff that Lady Helic is 'smart, strong, and impeccably loyal', adding that she is Angelina's 'assistant, adviser and best friend'.

 

Angelina watched Lady Helic be admitted to the House of Lords in 2014. They often travel together; recent trips include a visit to the International Criminal Court in the Netherlands and one to Burma at election time last summer.

 

Boshoff adds that the baroness's place in Jolie's inner circle is so central that she was with her when news of the divorce became public.

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This is going to be even messier than Johnny Depp and Amber's divorce, and I didn't think that would be possible last month.

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This is juicy stuff. I'm not sure how much I can copy paste.

 

 

http://nypost.com/2016/09/25/jolie-exposes-her-rebel-turned-saint-myth-by-trashing-pitt/

 

 

"Possibly the only thing more surprising than the news that Angelina Jolie filed for divorce from Brad Pitt were the unceasing, unremitting details.

As a brand, Brangelina spent more than a decade on lockdown: Their camp had no leaks. Tabloids knew nothing the couple didn’t want known. Their image as the chic-est, jet-setting-est, most racially harmonious family on Earth was impenetrable.

Until Tuesday, when Jolie’s filing demanding sole physical custody sent the media into overdrive: What had Pitt, heretofore known as a devoted father, possibly done?

Incredibly, almost on the hour, the story kept advancing: TMZ reported that Jolie had concerns “with the way Brad was parenting” and that she was “fed up” with his heavy use of weed and alcohol. He had an “anger problem.”

Next came accusations of Pitt cheating — with a co-star and with Russian hookers, their nationality an odd detail — of using hard drugs, and of verbally and physically attacking one of their children on a private plane.

Within 72 hours, the world knew more about Brangelina than in the 12 years they had been together. It was sordid and dirty, the photo negative of the perfect ­image they had so smugly, aggressively promoted.

The likeliest source of that narrative flip? Angelina Jolie, who at 41 has masterfully manipulated the media for over two decades.

Strategically, Jolie seems miles ahead of Pitt, but she may lose the long game. Video reportedly exists of the plane incident, and no physical altercation is said to have occurred. People have come to ­admire her, but they love him."

lots more after that........

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