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Johnny Depp: From bad boy to suburban dad
NASSAU, Bahamas (AP) - Once known as a Hollywood bad boy, Johnny Depp has
grown into more of a suburban dad.
These days, Depp can be found at his home in the south of France with
singer-actress Vanessa Paradis and their two children, 6-year-old Lily Rose
and 3-year-old Jack. So it seems fitting that the latest of Depp's long line
of offbeat characters is Willy Wonka in the film version of Roald Dahl's
novel Charlie and Chocolate Factory.
Why play Willy, a role immortalized by Gene Wilder in the 1971 classic?
Besides wanting to make his children happy, Depp was eager to collaborate
for a fifth time with director Tim Burton, who gave him his breakout movie
role in 1990's Edward Scissorhands.
During an interview at a resort near filming of two Pirates of the Caribbean
sequels, the 42-year-old Depp was in full Captain Jack Sparrow regalia -
bandanna, gold teeth, unkempt dreadlocks - as he sat down with The
Associated Press to talk about movies, fame and family.
You've said every movie you've done has been for your children, even before
they were born. What do you mean by that?
In the late '80s when I was on that TV show 21 Jump Street. On the one hand
it was a great thing. It was an incredible learning experience. It did a lot
for me. I was making money for the first time in my life. That was not bad.
There were a lot of very positive aspects to that situation. There were also
negative aspects. At that time as a television actor, it was very, very
difficult to break into films. ...
I was released (from Jump Street ) while I was doing Edward Scissorhands,
and I swore to myself that I would only work on these films or these
projects that I would at least someday be able to say to my kids, 'That was
all me. That's pure me. I didn't sell out because I don't want you to be
mortified or embarrassed.' So that was what was in my head at the time, just
thinking if I am going to this, I am going to do it on my terms. If I am
going to fail, I am going to fail on my own terms.
Why do you and Tim Burton work so well together?
It all stems from Tim's bravery. Early on for Edward Scissorhands we had
this great meeting and somehow connected. I never expected that he would
cast me in that role. I never expected that he would take the risk on me
which was a really big risk at that time. He just did and somehow there is
this kind of mutual understanding of things, and a mutual fascination with
people, human beings, weirdness, character flaws, human tics and all of that
stuff.
Did you watch the original Willy Wonka ? Did it inspire how you portrayed
your character?
I watched the original when I was a kid. I ended up watching it with my
kids, up until it was time for me to play the role of Willy Wonka. (Then),
when my kids would put the DVD in, I would run to the next room because I
didn't want to be influenced at all. I was really conscious about making
sure I went to a different area than Gene Wilder. I loved his character. I
loved Willy Wonka as a kid. He was the best thing in it for sure.
Gene Wilder has said Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was only remade to
make money and that Hollywood has no business messing with a classic film.
What's your take on this?
Somebody sent me an article where Gene Wilder said, "Why would they remake
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?" We didn't remake Willy Wonka and the
Chocolate Factory, we remade (the book) Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
It's based on the same book they based theirs on. Making a statement that
they only made this film because of the money is a really odd statement to
make from a guy who has been in the business as long as he has ... all
movies were made because somebody somewhere wanted a return on their dollar
that they spent. Ultimately it's a business. If you can dance around in
there and avoid the sharp edges, and understand the game, but not play the
game, then you're OK. Of course it is a dirty business, but that doesn't
mean that it's all about money for me. My intentions are as pure as they can
be.
It seems you haven't done a straight-up Hollywood film. Would you ever?
There were a few things that came around the bend, that they tried to get me
involved in. I couldn't bring myself to do it. The seed for me was tainted.
There was no redemption in there. It was kind of a sellout for a (lot) of
money. You would go in and do the work and take the money, but it wasn't
anything that you would be particularly proud of. That, I couldn't do. I've
attempted things in the past where people thought I tried to sell out. For
example I did this film Nick of Time with (director) John Badham. I don't
know if the film was particularly good. I did that film not for money, or
not to sell out. I didn't think it was going to be successful at all. I
didn't care. I did it because I wanted to work with Christopher Walken and I
wanted to work with John Badham. The script was very much like an old school
Hitchcock film. All of those elements were intriguing to me so I took it.
If you hadn't left Hollywood for France, do you think you would have a
different perspective about fame?
No, I don't think so because I come from where I come from. I come from
Kentucky. My relatives, and my mom and dad, my sisters and my brother, our
life in Kentucky is something that is very strong in my being. In south
Florida, we were nomads for years and years, working various jobs for great
lengths of time. Dropping out of high school, doing construction, printing
T-shirts. Where I come from is what has made me me.
What's this about you buying a cannon to shoot Hunter Thompson's ashes out
of?
Hunter meant a lot to me. He was another hero and someone that I got to know
very well because I played him in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. We got
very, very close. He was a great pal, one of my best friends. We had talked
a couple of times about his last wishes to be shot out of a cannon of his
own design. ... All I'm doing is trying to make sure his last wish comes
true. I just want to send my pal out the way he wants to go out.
You've been in a relationship for many years now, so what's the secret?
Trust, have fun, respect for one and other. Respect for one another's
privacy. Respect for what the other person does in their chosen profession.
Obviously a whole lot of love. Vanessa was like a bolt of lighting.
So she knocked you out?
Well yeah, because there were no pretensions. She has her success on her own
terms and when we met it wasn't like she was anything other than this sweet,
cool, funny girl. I'd never experienced anything like that before. She gave
me these two beautiful kids.
Is marriage an option? What does it mean to you?
Marriage can be whatever you define it as. For example, I don't feel like I
need a piece of paper that says I own her and she owns me. I think signing a
piece of paper doesn't mean anything in the eyes of God or in the eyes of
people. The thing is, if you are together and you love each other and are
good to each other, make babies and all that, for all intents and purposes
you are married.